1
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- In the criminal justice
system,

2
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the people are represented

3
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by two separate,
yet equally important groups:

4
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the police,
who investigate crime,

5
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and the district attorneys,
who prosecute the offenders.

6
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These are their stories.

7
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- Let's go, Bridge.

8
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You're going to make me late.

9
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- Sorry.

10
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I didn't like my outfit.

11
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- So that's the solve?

12
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- What do you mean?

13
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- I mean, you're dressed
for Miami, kid.

14
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- It's what girls wear, Dad.

15
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- All right, you can all get
hypothermia together, I guess.

16
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[key fob chirps]

17
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And hey,

18
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from now on, let's get up
a little bit earlier, OK?

19
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- Sorry, the group chat
blew up last night.

20
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- Tragic.

21
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[engine turns over]

22
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- You don't take me seriously.

23
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- No, I don't take
group chats seriously.

24
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- Because you gotta deal with
criminals and corpses all day?

25
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- One last time.

26
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X squared plus 8X
plus 16 equals 0.

27
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X is?

28
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- Negative 4.

29
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- Yeah, you got this.

30
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- I hope so.

31
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- No, it's not about
hope or luck.

32
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You studied hard.

33
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Every battle is won...

34
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- Before it's fought.
I know.

35
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- Exactly.

36
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So you just stay focused
and do your best.

37
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You're going
to crush this, kiddo.

38
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Come here.

39
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Love you.

40
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[sirens wailing]
[indistinct radio chatter]

41
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- Jesus. A kid?

42
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How old?
- Not sure.

43
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I'm guessing 12 or 13.

44
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We don't have an ID.

45
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Just this from her backpack.

46
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- All right.

47
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- Hey.
- Hey.

48
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- Jalen's still sick.
It's just me and you.

49
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My God, she's a baby.
- Yeah.

50
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- It's, like, a 30-foot drop.

51
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- Big fall for a little body.

52
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- Yeah,
she fractured some ribs,

53
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plus her skull, which caused
the cerebral hemorrhaging.

54
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- You think
she might have jumped?

55
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- The guy who called 911 said

56
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there was some sort
of altercation.

57
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Thinks someone pushed her.

58
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- She's wearing an Apple Watch
and a gold necklace.

59
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It doesn't look like
someone tried to rob her.

60
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- An iPhone in the side pocket.

61
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[tense music]

62
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A half-eaten bagel from Sal's
and a day planner.

63
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- Anything on the agenda?

64
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?

65
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- "Happy Friday."

66
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?

67
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[dramatic music]

68
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?

69
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- I set up every day at 7:00.

70
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Usually see the girl on her
way to school around 7:20.

71
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- You told police

72
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she was arguing with someone
this morning?

73
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- Yeah, heard her up there
getting upset with someone.

74
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- Can you describe this person?

75
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- Medium height.

76
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Dark coat. Dark hat.

77
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- Man? Woman?

78
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- Can't say.

79
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- Did you actually see
the girl get shoved?

80
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- No, I was down here
unloading my fruit.

81
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You can't see the High Line
from behind the truck.

82
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But when the truck
pulled away...

83
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- You saw the body?

84
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- She was lying there,
blood around her head.

85
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I called 911.

86
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- You know this girl's name,
where she lives,

87
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where she goes to school?

88
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- No, but she walks past me
every morning

89
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coming from downtown.

90
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- There's only one set of steps
downtown from here,

91
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at Gansevoort Street.

92
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- There's a Sal's Bagel
there too.

93
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- Thank you.

94
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We are very sorry
to inform you that the cashier

95
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at the bagel store
down the street

96
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identified your daughter
Emily Chapman.

97
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- Why?
I don't understand.

98
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- She was found dead
this morning

99
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next to the High Line.

100
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- What?

101
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- Were these
your daughter's belongings?

102
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- Uh-I-

103
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no, this isn't possible.

104
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- If it's all right, we do have
some questions that we need-

105
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[door clicks]
- Mel? Mel?

106
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The precinct called,
left a message.

107
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Something about Emily.

108
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What's going on?

109
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- I don't-
- Honey.

110
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What's going on? Come here.
- No!

111
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- Emily's 12.

112
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Our oldest.

113
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We have, uh-had three girls.

114
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- Was Emily having
any problems lately?

115
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- No.

116
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She was a great kid.

117
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Smart.
Happy.

118
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- Any issues at school?

119
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- Nothing serious.

120
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Run-of-the-mill
mean girl-type stuff, but no.

121
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- If there's any reason
to believe

122
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that she might have jumped...

123
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- Not a chance.

124
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She was strong.

125
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- Oh, God, how are we going
to tell Amanda?

126
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- Hey. Hey. It's OK.

127
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Amanda's our ten-year-old.

128
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She and Emily were very close.
[baby crying]

129
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- She's on her way home
from school right now.

130
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- I'll be here.
It's OK.

131
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[baby crying]

132
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- Ugh, I'm sorry.

133
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I have to feed the baby.

134
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I've been home all morning

135
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trying to get her
to take a bottle.

136
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- Sophie's seven months.

137
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[somber music]

138
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?

139
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- If you think of anything else
that might be helpful.

140
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Thank you.

141
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- [crying]

142
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- Emily's been with us
since she was six years old.

143
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Always willing
to roll up her sleeves,

144
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work hard.
[school bell rings]

145
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No sense of entitlement
despite her family being-

146
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- Loaded?

147
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- Her father runs a hedge fund,
and he has been

148
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very generous to the school.
- Mm.

149
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Was Emily having any problems
in school that you know of?

150
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- No.

151
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- Well, her father mentioned
that she was having

152
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some mean girl issues.

153
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Do you know
anything about that?

154
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- Middle school is
an emotional minefield.

155
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Emily was a thoughtful
and sensitive girl.

156
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I think
she just couldn't understand

157
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how anyone could be
so cruel to her.

158
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- Well, who was being so cruel?

159
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Do you have a name?

160
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- Gabby Feliciano.

161
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She trashed Emily's locker
a week back.

162
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Tore up her posters
and her notebooks.

163
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- Emily and I were besties
since kindergarten.

164
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Then a few months ago,
she starts ignoring me,

165
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stops inviting me over.

166
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- You see her on the way
to school today?

167
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- No.

168
00:07:05,555 --> 00:07:07,121
- You sure about that, Gabby?

169
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- Positive.

170
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I was
at my psychologist's office

171
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this morning until 11:00 AM.

172
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- OK, we're going to need
that name and number.

173
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- My parents are convinced
I have anger issues.

174
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- Because you trashed
Emily's locker?

175
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- Dr. Kay thinks it's more
about insecurity and jealousy

176
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because Coach Redmond
liked Emily more than me.

177
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- Who's Coach Redmond?

178
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- The new volleyball coach.

179
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He's really hot.

180
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Looks like Timoth�e Chalamet.

181
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Emily was his favorite.

182
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- What do you mean by that?

183
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- He picked her out of nowhere
to be the main setter.

184
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He gave her
private practice sessions too.

185
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[dramatic music]

186
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- I'm not seeing the
Timoth�e Chalamet thing here.

187
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- Well, you're not
a 13-year-old girl

188
00:07:55,953 --> 00:07:57,780
stuck at a single-sex school.

189
00:07:57,781 --> 00:07:59,260
Does our coach have a record?

190
00:07:59,261 --> 00:08:01,392
- Nope, and no civil suits.

191
00:08:01,393 --> 00:08:02,959
- He joined
Liberty Girls Volleyball

192
00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,874
this year
after a two-year stint

193
00:08:04,875 --> 00:08:07,268
in an all-girls school
in Boston.

194
00:08:07,269 --> 00:08:09,357
Before that, he coached
a girls' volleyball club

195
00:08:09,358 --> 00:08:10,445
up in Maine.

196
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- So he doesn't stay put
for long.

197
00:08:11,839 --> 00:08:13,666
- Yeah, and he only coaches
young girls.

198
00:08:13,667 --> 00:08:15,537
- So do we have
any kind of electronic trail

199
00:08:15,538 --> 00:08:16,625
between him and our vic?

200
00:08:16,626 --> 00:08:18,148
- Nothing in her call
or text logs.

201
00:08:18,149 --> 00:08:19,628
But she did have
a Quickchat account,

202
00:08:19,629 --> 00:08:21,412
and there was a long streak
of messages

203
00:08:21,413 --> 00:08:23,589
between her
and someone named Coach.

204
00:08:23,590 --> 00:08:24,938
- Were they all deleted?

205
00:08:24,939 --> 00:08:27,462
- They auto-deleted
after 24 hours.

206
00:08:27,463 --> 00:08:31,248
But actually, I think we can
read her last message.

207
00:08:31,249 --> 00:08:34,991
It was sent this morning
an hour before the murder.

208
00:08:34,992 --> 00:08:38,342
"Sorry, Coach,
I can't do this anymore."

209
00:08:38,343 --> 00:08:40,257
?

210
00:08:40,258 --> 00:08:41,520
- Let's go.

211
00:08:41,521 --> 00:08:46,526
?

212
00:08:49,703 --> 00:08:51,530
[indistinct chatter]

213
00:08:51,531 --> 00:08:53,793
[whistle blows]
- Come on, girls. Game speed.

214
00:08:53,794 --> 00:08:55,099
- Hey.

215
00:08:57,145 --> 00:08:59,886
Quickchatting
with a 12-year-old?

216
00:08:59,887 --> 00:09:01,540
- Excuse me?

217
00:09:01,541 --> 00:09:03,324
- Emily Chapman.

218
00:09:03,325 --> 00:09:04,499
You've been Quickchatting
with her

219
00:09:04,500 --> 00:09:07,589
for 20 days straight now, huh?

220
00:09:07,590 --> 00:09:08,764
- How dare you suggest-

221
00:09:08,765 --> 00:09:10,287
- Spare me your outrage,
Coach, all right?

222
00:09:10,288 --> 00:09:11,811
Because I'm really not
in the mood for it right now.

223
00:09:11,812 --> 00:09:13,552
What happened, huh?

224
00:09:13,553 --> 00:09:16,032
That text she sent you this
morning really piss you off?

225
00:09:16,033 --> 00:09:17,512
- What are you talking about?

226
00:09:17,513 --> 00:09:18,948
- Emily is dead.

227
00:09:18,949 --> 00:09:20,429
- What?

228
00:09:23,824 --> 00:09:27,130
[sighs]
Emily.

229
00:09:27,131 --> 00:09:29,916
I was worried about her.

230
00:09:29,917 --> 00:09:31,439
Did she-

231
00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,354
- We found her underneath
the High Line this morning.

232
00:09:33,355 --> 00:09:36,662
- What makes you think
she might have killed herself?

233
00:09:36,663 --> 00:09:41,405
- Something was going on
at school or at home.

234
00:09:41,406 --> 00:09:42,842
She wouldn't confide.

235
00:09:42,843 --> 00:09:45,540
So yeah, I got a little
more involved in her life.

236
00:09:45,541 --> 00:09:47,455
- With private
coaching sessions

237
00:09:47,456 --> 00:09:49,457
and disappearing messages
on an app

238
00:09:49,458 --> 00:09:51,067
with a known
pedophile fan base, huh?

239
00:09:51,068 --> 00:09:53,679
- I offered her
one-on-one coaching.

240
00:09:53,680 --> 00:09:57,030
Thought maybe she just
needed some attention.

241
00:09:57,031 --> 00:09:59,206
- She sent you
a text this morning

242
00:09:59,207 --> 00:10:01,164
an hour before she died.

243
00:10:01,165 --> 00:10:05,386
"I can't do this anymore."

244
00:10:05,387 --> 00:10:07,040
So it doesn't seem
like Emily was enjoying

245
00:10:07,041 --> 00:10:09,651
all of this attention that
you were showering upon her.

246
00:10:09,652 --> 00:10:13,176
- No, she meant
the private workouts.

247
00:10:13,177 --> 00:10:14,743
Her mother thought
I was corrupting her.

248
00:10:14,744 --> 00:10:17,050
- Yeah, I can't imagine why
a mother would have a problem

249
00:10:17,051 --> 00:10:18,486
with this relationship.

250
00:10:18,487 --> 00:10:20,880
- You don't happen to have
an alibi for this morning

251
00:10:20,881 --> 00:10:24,057
between 7:00 and 7:30 AM?

252
00:10:24,058 --> 00:10:25,885
- I was home.

253
00:10:25,886 --> 00:10:27,103
By myself.

254
00:10:27,104 --> 00:10:29,410
- [scoffs]

255
00:10:29,411 --> 00:10:32,848
Well, the jury's really going
to love that.

256
00:10:32,849 --> 00:10:36,461
- We'll be in touch, Coach.

257
00:10:36,462 --> 00:10:41,161
Well, he knows all the right
buzzwords, that's for sure.

258
00:10:41,162 --> 00:10:43,206
- Mm-hmm,
caring and empathetic coach.

259
00:10:43,207 --> 00:10:44,730
Girls fall for it all the time.

260
00:10:44,731 --> 00:10:47,776
- Say for the moment
that we believe Coach Redmond.

261
00:10:47,777 --> 00:10:49,343
It seems like
there's a possibility

262
00:10:49,344 --> 00:10:50,910
that something's off at home.

263
00:10:50,911 --> 00:10:52,215
- No, he's deflecting.

264
00:10:52,216 --> 00:10:53,695
He's blaming the parents,
the family.

265
00:10:53,696 --> 00:10:55,523
I mean, that's how
these pricks operate.

266
00:10:55,524 --> 00:10:57,917
- Either way, I think we should
talk to the mom one more time.

267
00:10:57,918 --> 00:10:59,353
- All right.

268
00:10:59,354 --> 00:11:00,571
You know what?

269
00:11:00,572 --> 00:11:02,922
I just want to make
one stop first.

270
00:11:02,923 --> 00:11:04,706
[siren wailing]

271
00:11:04,707 --> 00:11:06,882
Hey, I thought
you weren't supposed to be

272
00:11:06,883 --> 00:11:08,492
checking your phone in school.

273
00:11:08,493 --> 00:11:09,929
- Did you really send me a

274
00:11:09,930 --> 00:11:13,280
"Bridge, I need to talk to you
ASAP" text as a test?

275
00:11:13,281 --> 00:11:16,762
- No, I really need
to talk to you.

276
00:11:16,763 --> 00:11:19,025
- Wait, is everything OK?

277
00:11:19,026 --> 00:11:20,287
Is Mom-

278
00:11:20,288 --> 00:11:21,941
- No, no, no.
Everything's fine.

279
00:11:21,942 --> 00:11:23,377
Everything's fine.

280
00:11:23,378 --> 00:11:26,032
Look, I'm sorry
if I haven't been taking

281
00:11:26,033 --> 00:11:28,121
your problems seriously.

282
00:11:28,122 --> 00:11:30,514
[dramatic music]

283
00:11:30,515 --> 00:11:32,603
I mean, you know that if
there's ever anything wrong,

284
00:11:32,604 --> 00:11:35,781
you can talk to me, right?

285
00:11:35,782 --> 00:11:37,347
You know, if I'm not
paying attention

286
00:11:37,348 --> 00:11:40,263
or if I'm checked out

287
00:11:40,264 --> 00:11:41,743
or if I'm just being
an idiot or something,

288
00:11:41,744 --> 00:11:45,094
I mean, you just-
you keep talking, all right?

289
00:11:45,095 --> 00:11:47,357
?

290
00:11:47,358 --> 00:11:48,402
You promise?

291
00:11:48,403 --> 00:11:51,797
?

292
00:11:51,798 --> 00:11:53,276
- Bad day at work?

293
00:11:53,277 --> 00:11:56,018
?

294
00:11:56,019 --> 00:11:58,325
- Yeah, a bad day.

295
00:11:58,326 --> 00:12:00,240
- Can I get you some coffee?

296
00:12:00,241 --> 00:12:02,808
I don't know
where the filters are,

297
00:12:02,809 --> 00:12:04,157
but I know we have some.

298
00:12:04,158 --> 00:12:05,332
- We're OK.

299
00:12:05,333 --> 00:12:08,552
We just have
a few more questions.

300
00:12:08,553 --> 00:12:10,511
- OK.

301
00:12:10,512 --> 00:12:12,905
Derek had to run out
for a minute,

302
00:12:12,906 --> 00:12:15,603
and the baby's been crying.

303
00:12:15,604 --> 00:12:17,431
- Honestly,
it's just a couple questions,

304
00:12:17,432 --> 00:12:18,606
if that's all right.

305
00:12:18,607 --> 00:12:20,042
- Yeah.

306
00:12:20,043 --> 00:12:21,566
[sniffles]

307
00:12:22,698 --> 00:12:24,917
- How was Emily doing
here at home?

308
00:12:24,918 --> 00:12:26,832
Was everything OK?

309
00:12:26,833 --> 00:12:28,355
- What do you mean?

310
00:12:28,356 --> 00:12:31,445
- Was she having any problems
with her sister Amanda,

311
00:12:31,446 --> 00:12:34,100
with her dad, with you?

312
00:12:34,101 --> 00:12:35,449
- It's-it's always hard

313
00:12:35,450 --> 00:12:37,321
to bring a new baby
into the home.

314
00:12:39,759 --> 00:12:43,674
I think Emily and Amanda were
both feeling kind of ignored,

315
00:12:43,675 --> 00:12:48,289
but, I mean, she seemed fine.

316
00:12:49,464 --> 00:12:51,334
- We spoke
to her volleyball coach.

317
00:12:51,335 --> 00:12:52,727
- Coach Redmond?

318
00:12:52,728 --> 00:12:55,469
Yeah, what'd that creep
have to say?

319
00:12:55,470 --> 00:12:56,949
- Not a fan, huh?

320
00:12:56,950 --> 00:13:00,169
- He is a grown man
who spends way too much time

321
00:13:00,170 --> 00:13:01,562
talking to a 12-year-old girl.

322
00:13:01,563 --> 00:13:03,216
And the other day,
I see him near our building.

323
00:13:03,217 --> 00:13:04,391
- He was here?

324
00:13:04,392 --> 00:13:05,740
Like, you think
he was stalking her?

325
00:13:05,741 --> 00:13:07,786
- Yes.
Yeah, he was obsessed.

326
00:13:07,787 --> 00:13:10,876
- Did you file a police report?

327
00:13:10,877 --> 00:13:14,357
- No, I confronted him

328
00:13:14,358 --> 00:13:16,533
and I told him
I knew what he was up to.

329
00:13:16,534 --> 00:13:20,755
But he lied and said
he was just getting coffee.

330
00:13:20,756 --> 00:13:22,235
- That's why you wanted
to yank her

331
00:13:22,236 --> 00:13:23,236
from the volleyball club?

332
00:13:23,237 --> 00:13:24,585
- Exactly.

333
00:13:24,586 --> 00:13:28,937
I didn't need dark intentions
around my child.

334
00:13:28,938 --> 00:13:30,460
- Dark intentions?

335
00:13:30,461 --> 00:13:32,767
?

336
00:13:32,768 --> 00:13:37,816
- Yeah, I'm really good at
sensing people's true motives.

337
00:13:37,817 --> 00:13:41,428
- I'm sorry, can I ask why you
didn't mention this earlier?

338
00:13:41,429 --> 00:13:45,911
- I-my mind-
I can't explain it.

339
00:13:45,912 --> 00:13:47,913
My mind just kind of switched
to something else,

340
00:13:47,914 --> 00:13:51,133
to my-to my other girls,

341
00:13:51,134 --> 00:13:54,006
Amanda and Sophie.

342
00:13:54,007 --> 00:13:56,095
They're all that matter.

343
00:13:56,096 --> 00:14:00,751
?

344
00:14:00,752 --> 00:14:02,579
- Anything more
on Coach Redmond?

345
00:14:02,580 --> 00:14:05,104
- I've been scouring video
from outside the coffee shop

346
00:14:05,105 --> 00:14:07,019
where Melinda Chapman saw him.

347
00:14:07,020 --> 00:14:08,759
- No evidence this guy was
anywhere in the vicinity

348
00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,413
the morning of the murder.

349
00:14:10,414 --> 00:14:12,589
- So Mom thinks the coach
is an obsessed creep,

350
00:14:12,590 --> 00:14:14,417
but we can't put him
anywhere near the Chapmans'

351
00:14:14,418 --> 00:14:15,810
or the High Line that morning.

352
00:14:15,811 --> 00:14:17,551
- I respect a mom's intuition.

353
00:14:17,552 --> 00:14:19,031
- OK, keep looking,
but we're going to need

354
00:14:19,032 --> 00:14:20,380
some actual evidence.

355
00:14:20,381 --> 00:14:22,862
- Wait a second.
Check this out.

356
00:14:23,863 --> 00:14:28,431
Look who was outside
the coffee shop at 7:40 AM.

357
00:14:28,432 --> 00:14:30,607
- Five minutes
after the 911 call.

358
00:14:30,608 --> 00:14:34,394
[tense music]

359
00:14:34,395 --> 00:14:36,222
Good morning, guys.

360
00:14:36,223 --> 00:14:37,571
You must be Amanda.

361
00:14:37,572 --> 00:14:39,790
- Hey, I can't really talk
right now.

362
00:14:39,791 --> 00:14:41,053
- Oh, this will
just take a second.

363
00:14:41,054 --> 00:14:42,924
Need a little clarification
on something.

364
00:14:42,925 --> 00:14:44,665
Would you mind
stepping over here with me?

365
00:14:44,666 --> 00:14:46,623
- Yeah. Mom, will you
watch them for a second?

366
00:14:46,624 --> 00:14:48,930
- I got it.
- OK.

367
00:14:48,931 --> 00:14:49,931
How can I help?

368
00:14:49,932 --> 00:14:51,672
- Well, yesterday
you mentioned

369
00:14:51,673 --> 00:14:54,370
that you were stuck at home
with the baby all morning.

370
00:14:54,371 --> 00:14:55,502
- Yeah, that's right.

371
00:14:55,503 --> 00:14:57,460
- So at the time
of Emily's death,

372
00:14:57,461 --> 00:15:00,072
7:20, 7:30 AM, you were...

373
00:15:00,073 --> 00:15:01,421
- Why are you asking?

374
00:15:01,422 --> 00:15:03,031
- Oh, well, we just, you know,
have to cross off

375
00:15:03,032 --> 00:15:04,815
certain scenarios,
eliminate suspects.

376
00:15:04,816 --> 00:15:06,165
Just a matter of protocol.

377
00:15:06,166 --> 00:15:07,775
- Right.

378
00:15:07,776 --> 00:15:11,344
Well, I was home, so you can
go ahead and cross me off.

379
00:15:11,345 --> 00:15:12,519
If you don't mind...

380
00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,216
- Actually, you know what?
I do mind.

381
00:15:14,217 --> 00:15:16,871
Because we've got video of you

382
00:15:16,872 --> 00:15:18,917
out on the street that morning.

383
00:15:18,918 --> 00:15:21,963
That's you,
black coat, burgundy hat,

384
00:15:21,964 --> 00:15:23,834
in front of the coffee shop
a block from your house

385
00:15:23,835 --> 00:15:26,185
not five minutes
after the 911 call came in.

386
00:15:26,186 --> 00:15:29,188
?

387
00:15:29,189 --> 00:15:30,798
- I want a lawyer.

388
00:15:30,799 --> 00:15:32,582
- I think that'd be
a good idea.

389
00:15:32,583 --> 00:15:35,672
?

390
00:15:35,673 --> 00:15:36,717
- What's going on?

391
00:15:36,718 --> 00:15:38,284
- Hey, I love you, all right?

392
00:15:38,285 --> 00:15:39,938
Keep an eye on Sophie,
all right?

393
00:15:39,939 --> 00:15:42,201
It's OK.

394
00:15:42,202 --> 00:15:49,121
?

395
00:15:49,122 --> 00:15:51,819
- Come on, Lieutenant, haven't
you heard of mommy brain?

396
00:15:51,820 --> 00:15:53,690
My client had
an innocent slip of memory.

397
00:15:53,691 --> 00:15:54,996
Tell her, Melinda.

398
00:15:54,997 --> 00:15:56,998
- Yeah, I ran out
for baby wipes.

399
00:15:56,999 --> 00:15:58,478
Totally forgot.

400
00:15:58,479 --> 00:16:00,480
- Are you really going to grill
a sleep-deprived mom

401
00:16:00,481 --> 00:16:02,003
of a seven-month-old

402
00:16:02,004 --> 00:16:03,874
whose daughter
was just murdered

403
00:16:03,875 --> 00:16:06,486
over a blurred recollection?

404
00:16:06,487 --> 00:16:08,009
- You're right.

405
00:16:08,010 --> 00:16:10,185
I mean, I remember the first
few months with an infant.

406
00:16:10,186 --> 00:16:14,407
The days are blurry
and everything is just foggy.

407
00:16:14,408 --> 00:16:17,845
So we got ahold of some
additional surveillance video

408
00:16:17,846 --> 00:16:22,589
to remind your client what
she was doing that morning.

409
00:16:22,590 --> 00:16:25,026
So that's you
right there at 7:08,

410
00:16:25,027 --> 00:16:27,246
leaving your apartment building
a few minutes after

411
00:16:27,247 --> 00:16:28,943
your husband left with Emily,

412
00:16:28,944 --> 00:16:31,946
wearing that same dark coat
and burgundy hat

413
00:16:31,947 --> 00:16:34,209
we saw you wearing
near the coffee shop.

414
00:16:34,210 --> 00:16:38,039
And we found some more video
of someone wearing

415
00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:42,435
the same coat and hat
entering the High Line at 7:20,

416
00:16:42,436 --> 00:16:44,306
just minutes before Emily died.

417
00:16:44,307 --> 00:16:46,482
?

418
00:16:46,483 --> 00:16:49,007
And then this last one.

419
00:16:49,008 --> 00:16:50,965
We tracked down
all of the buses

420
00:16:50,966 --> 00:16:53,968
parked on 10th Avenue,
near where Emily was killed,

421
00:16:53,969 --> 00:16:56,405
and we found
some dash cam footage...

422
00:16:56,406 --> 00:16:59,887
?

423
00:16:59,888 --> 00:17:03,673
Of you pushing your daughter
over the railing.

424
00:17:03,674 --> 00:17:06,372
Does that jog your memory,
or do you want to stick

425
00:17:06,373 --> 00:17:09,244
with the baby wipe story?

426
00:17:09,245 --> 00:17:10,506
- My client is done here.

427
00:17:10,507 --> 00:17:11,594
- That's one way to put it.

428
00:17:11,595 --> 00:17:13,553
?

429
00:17:13,554 --> 00:17:15,294
[door clicks]

430
00:17:15,295 --> 00:17:16,643
- Melinda Chapman, stand up

431
00:17:16,644 --> 00:17:17,774
and place your hands
behind your back.

432
00:17:17,775 --> 00:17:20,429
You're under arrest.

433
00:17:20,430 --> 00:17:24,303
- I mean, what kind of woman
kills her own child?

434
00:17:24,304 --> 00:17:26,044
- A saint.

435
00:17:26,045 --> 00:17:29,526
?

436
00:17:32,660 --> 00:17:35,183
[reporters clamoring]

437
00:17:35,184 --> 00:17:37,620
- How did she plea?
- Not guilty, as expected.

438
00:17:37,621 --> 00:17:39,187
- Are you seeking
the death penalty?

439
00:17:39,188 --> 00:17:41,407
- New York outlawed
the death penalty years ago.

440
00:17:41,408 --> 00:17:43,104
- Is it true
that Melinda was smiling

441
00:17:43,105 --> 00:17:44,105
throughout
the entire arraignment?

442
00:17:44,106 --> 00:17:45,454
- No comment.

443
00:17:45,455 --> 00:17:46,803
- Melinda may have been
abusing her daughter-

444
00:17:46,804 --> 00:17:48,718
- I have no comment.
We're still investigating.

445
00:17:48,719 --> 00:17:50,459
Thank you. I have no comment.
- Why are you hiding the facts?

446
00:17:50,460 --> 00:17:52,113
- Thank you.
- Why are you hiding the facts?

447
00:17:52,114 --> 00:17:53,593
- We have a right to know
why this monster

448
00:17:53,594 --> 00:17:55,073
killed her daughter.

449
00:17:55,074 --> 00:17:58,293
- It's funny, the reporters
thought I was deflecting,

450
00:17:58,294 --> 00:18:00,208
that I didn't want to tell them

451
00:18:00,209 --> 00:18:02,297
why Melinda killed
her daughter.

452
00:18:02,298 --> 00:18:05,953
But I still truly have no idea.

453
00:18:05,954 --> 00:18:08,738
- Apparently,
she was a great mom,

454
00:18:08,739 --> 00:18:10,653
great wife, great friend.

455
00:18:10,654 --> 00:18:15,223
- No suspicious emails or texts
between Emily and her either.

456
00:18:15,224 --> 00:18:18,183
Nothing that can explain
this act of violence.

457
00:18:18,184 --> 00:18:20,968
- Good news is,
we don't need motive.

458
00:18:20,969 --> 00:18:23,666
We don't have to establish
why Melinda killed Emily.

459
00:18:23,667 --> 00:18:25,190
We just need to prove
that she did.

460
00:18:25,191 --> 00:18:26,511
[phone chimes and buzzes]

461
00:18:30,718 --> 00:18:33,023
That is her attorney.

462
00:18:33,024 --> 00:18:35,330
Plans to change Melinda's plea.

463
00:18:35,331 --> 00:18:38,028
- Not guilty
by reason of insanity?

464
00:18:38,029 --> 00:18:39,639
- Legally, it's a stretch.

465
00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,554
But based on what
her attorney told us

466
00:18:41,555 --> 00:18:43,164
and the defendant's
medical records,

467
00:18:43,165 --> 00:18:44,513
it's clear
she had been struggling

468
00:18:44,514 --> 00:18:46,907
with postpartum depression
prior to the murder.

469
00:18:46,908 --> 00:18:48,387
- The victim was 12 years old.

470
00:18:48,388 --> 00:18:50,389
- Yes, but there was
a baby in the house,

471
00:18:50,390 --> 00:18:52,434
a seven-months-old sister.

472
00:18:52,435 --> 00:18:54,871
- But the mother killed Emily,
her oldest daughter?

473
00:18:54,872 --> 00:18:57,178
- Yeah, I'm not an expert
in how this works, Nick.

474
00:18:57,179 --> 00:18:59,180
All I'm saying is,
there is credible evidence

475
00:18:59,181 --> 00:19:01,356
that Melinda sought
psychiatric help

476
00:19:01,357 --> 00:19:02,836
prior to the murder.

477
00:19:02,837 --> 00:19:04,838
- Have one of our psychiatrists
evaluate her.

478
00:19:04,839 --> 00:19:05,969
[elevator bell dings]

479
00:19:05,970 --> 00:19:08,058
Let's see how real
her postpartum is.

480
00:19:08,059 --> 00:19:11,018
[dramatic music]

481
00:19:11,019 --> 00:19:12,237
?

482
00:19:12,238 --> 00:19:13,977
- I need to see Sophie,
please.

483
00:19:13,978 --> 00:19:15,936
Please, can I see my baby?

484
00:19:15,937 --> 00:19:18,895
- We can't let you do that
right now, Melinda.

485
00:19:18,896 --> 00:19:20,201
- But she's OK?

486
00:19:20,202 --> 00:19:21,898
- Yes, she's fine.

487
00:19:21,899 --> 00:19:23,291
- OK.

488
00:19:23,292 --> 00:19:24,771
- Do you know
why you're here, Melinda?

489
00:19:24,772 --> 00:19:26,207
- In jail?

490
00:19:26,208 --> 00:19:29,079
Yeah, because I had
to protect my baby.

491
00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,256
- Protect Sophie?
- Mm.

492
00:19:31,257 --> 00:19:32,257
- From what?

493
00:19:32,258 --> 00:19:35,434
- From Emily.

494
00:19:35,435 --> 00:19:39,089
I couldn't just let it happen.

495
00:19:39,090 --> 00:19:40,917
- Let what happen?

496
00:19:40,918 --> 00:19:42,223
- Let Emily kill her.

497
00:19:42,224 --> 00:19:44,312
?

498
00:19:44,313 --> 00:19:46,749
- Emily was going
to kill her sister?

499
00:19:46,750 --> 00:19:51,058
- That's-
that's why I did what I-

500
00:19:51,059 --> 00:19:52,059
but she's safe?

501
00:19:52,060 --> 00:19:53,669
Sophie's OK?

502
00:19:53,670 --> 00:19:56,716
- Yes, she's home
with your husband.

503
00:19:56,717 --> 00:19:58,848
- [whimpers]

504
00:19:58,849 --> 00:20:02,243
- What made you think
Emily had this intention

505
00:20:02,244 --> 00:20:05,942
to kill her sister?

506
00:20:05,943 --> 00:20:07,640
- The voice told me.

507
00:20:07,641 --> 00:20:11,252
- This voice...

508
00:20:11,253 --> 00:20:14,124
do you still hear it?

509
00:20:14,125 --> 00:20:16,997
- All the time.
[clears throat]

510
00:20:16,998 --> 00:20:19,129
I'm hearing it right now.

511
00:20:19,130 --> 00:20:20,870
- What's it saying?

512
00:20:20,871 --> 00:20:22,568
?

513
00:20:22,569 --> 00:20:25,223
- He doesn't think
you're here to help.

514
00:20:25,224 --> 00:20:28,269
?

515
00:20:28,270 --> 00:20:29,966
- That poor woman.

516
00:20:29,967 --> 00:20:31,272
Look at her.

517
00:20:31,273 --> 00:20:34,275
- She could be
a very good actress.

518
00:20:34,276 --> 00:20:37,060
- It's possible,
but we haven't been able

519
00:20:37,061 --> 00:20:39,759
to find a single logical reason
for this murder

520
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,891
except for her
being mentally ill.

521
00:20:41,892 --> 00:20:43,893
[footsteps approaching]

522
00:20:43,894 --> 00:20:47,201
- I have some more work to do,
but it's clear she's struggling

523
00:20:47,202 --> 00:20:49,116
with severe mental illness.

524
00:20:49,117 --> 00:20:51,510
- There's no chance
she's faking it?

525
00:20:51,511 --> 00:20:53,642
- Not in my opinion,
but you should check

526
00:20:53,643 --> 00:20:55,296
with any other
mental health professional

527
00:20:55,297 --> 00:20:57,167
she might have consulted
prior to the murder.

528
00:20:57,168 --> 00:21:00,170
?

529
00:21:00,171 --> 00:21:04,566
- I met Melinda a week before
her daughter passed away.

530
00:21:04,567 --> 00:21:08,831
She called our intake line
early one morning very upset.

531
00:21:08,832 --> 00:21:12,139
Said she thought demons were
being sent to kill her baby

532
00:21:12,140 --> 00:21:15,577
and that her daughter Emily
was one of those demons.

533
00:21:15,578 --> 00:21:17,013
- Right.

534
00:21:17,014 --> 00:21:19,842
And this-this was all due
to postpartum depression?

535
00:21:19,843 --> 00:21:22,889
- No, this was
full-on postpartum psychosis.

536
00:21:22,890 --> 00:21:25,587
The depression escalated
and triggered

537
00:21:25,588 --> 00:21:28,024
the presentation of an
underlying mental condition

538
00:21:28,025 --> 00:21:29,417
she never knew she had.

539
00:21:29,418 --> 00:21:31,506
- So she came here
to your office, and then what?

540
00:21:31,507 --> 00:21:34,553
- I evaluated her
and immediately recommended

541
00:21:34,554 --> 00:21:36,816
she check into our day hospital
in Midtown,

542
00:21:36,817 --> 00:21:39,732
where we'd monitor her,
medicate her,

543
00:21:39,733 --> 00:21:42,212
help look after Sophie
while she recovered.

544
00:21:42,213 --> 00:21:45,215
The condition is treatable.

545
00:21:45,216 --> 00:21:47,217
- So what happened?

546
00:21:47,218 --> 00:21:49,002
- Her husband
wasn't interested.

547
00:21:49,003 --> 00:21:51,091
He thought I was making
a big deal out of nothing.

548
00:21:51,092 --> 00:21:55,530
I tried to persuade Melinda
to stay, but...

549
00:21:55,531 --> 00:21:57,271
- Did you prescribe medication?

550
00:21:57,272 --> 00:21:58,359
- Zyprexa.

551
00:21:58,360 --> 00:22:00,230
It's an antipsychotic.

552
00:22:00,231 --> 00:22:03,364
I told her
she needed to take it.

553
00:22:03,365 --> 00:22:06,933
But he ripped it up
right in front of me,

554
00:22:06,934 --> 00:22:10,850
said he didn't believe
in psych meds.

555
00:22:10,851 --> 00:22:12,678
- When our detectives
talked to Melinda,

556
00:22:12,679 --> 00:22:15,811
they said they didn't see
any sign of psychosis.

557
00:22:15,812 --> 00:22:18,901
- Patients can have
moments of lucidity

558
00:22:18,902 --> 00:22:22,252
interrupted by bursts of

559
00:22:22,253 --> 00:22:25,908
what a layman would call
total insanity.

560
00:22:25,909 --> 00:22:29,390
The condition doesn't announce
itself to the outside world.

561
00:22:29,391 --> 00:22:31,349
But her husband knew.

562
00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:34,439
I promise,
he's the one responsible

563
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:35,788
for that girl's death.

564
00:22:35,789 --> 00:22:39,532
?

565
00:22:40,414 --> 00:22:44,710
- Both psychiatrists believe
she's struggling

566
00:22:44,711 --> 00:22:45,798
with postpartum psychosis

567
00:22:45,799 --> 00:22:47,408
seven months
after she gave birth?

568
00:22:47,409 --> 00:22:51,238
- Apparently, this disease
can last a year or longer.

569
00:22:51,239 --> 00:22:53,545
- OK, well, for now,
let's concede

570
00:22:53,546 --> 00:22:56,199
that she's struggling with
some form of mental illness.

571
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,985
Doesn't mean we should
accept her insanity plea.

572
00:22:58,986 --> 00:23:00,421
She lied to the police.

573
00:23:00,422 --> 00:23:01,683
She lawyered up.

574
00:23:01,684 --> 00:23:02,728
Proves she knew
right from wrong.

575
00:23:02,729 --> 00:23:04,251
- Maybe.

576
00:23:04,252 --> 00:23:06,471
Either way, Sam and I both feel

577
00:23:06,472 --> 00:23:08,951
that the husband is actually
more culpable.

578
00:23:08,952 --> 00:23:10,431
- The husband?

579
00:23:10,432 --> 00:23:11,737
How's that?

580
00:23:11,738 --> 00:23:14,304
- We talked to three
of her closest friends.

581
00:23:14,305 --> 00:23:19,919
They all confirmed Derek is
very intense and controlling.

582
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,400
Former Navy SEAL.
All of that.

583
00:23:22,401 --> 00:23:24,924
He actively prevented Melinda
from taking

584
00:23:24,925 --> 00:23:27,405
antipsychotic medication
prescribed by a doctor,

585
00:23:27,406 --> 00:23:29,929
knowing that she was
hearing voices,

586
00:23:29,930 --> 00:23:31,278
was talking about demons...

587
00:23:31,279 --> 00:23:33,454
- And that she presented
a legitimate threat

588
00:23:33,455 --> 00:23:34,803
to her children's lives.

589
00:23:34,804 --> 00:23:36,022
- So you want to go after him
for what,

590
00:23:36,023 --> 00:23:37,763
criminally negligent homicide?

591
00:23:37,764 --> 00:23:39,721
- Man two.

592
00:23:39,722 --> 00:23:40,983
- That's a big swing.

593
00:23:40,984 --> 00:23:42,376
- No, that's the right move,
Nick.

594
00:23:42,377 --> 00:23:45,423
- This could set
a dangerous precedent.

595
00:23:45,424 --> 00:23:48,687
Legal insanity is
an incredibly high threshold.

596
00:23:48,688 --> 00:23:50,689
- If what we've heard is true,

597
00:23:50,690 --> 00:23:53,126
then Melinda was
clearly suffering

598
00:23:53,127 --> 00:23:54,388
from severe psychosis.

599
00:23:54,389 --> 00:23:56,564
She literally thought
her daughter Emily

600
00:23:56,565 --> 00:23:57,783
was trying to kill her baby.

601
00:23:57,784 --> 00:24:00,133
How is that not legal insanity?

602
00:24:00,134 --> 00:24:02,701
And if it isn't,
well, that's on us,

603
00:24:02,702 --> 00:24:04,398
because it damn well should be.

604
00:24:04,399 --> 00:24:06,618
We should be trying
to help Melinda,

605
00:24:06,619 --> 00:24:08,533
not crucify her.

606
00:24:08,534 --> 00:24:10,883
[somber music]

607
00:24:10,884 --> 00:24:13,668
- You're right.

608
00:24:13,669 --> 00:24:16,192
And this father,

609
00:24:16,193 --> 00:24:18,281
if he truly could have
prevented this tragedy

610
00:24:18,282 --> 00:24:22,460
and didn't, he needs to pay.

611
00:24:22,461 --> 00:24:24,897
- Based on a review
of the evidence

612
00:24:24,898 --> 00:24:26,986
and conversations
with medical experts,

613
00:24:26,987 --> 00:24:30,076
we are prepared to accept
your insanity plea.

614
00:24:30,077 --> 00:24:34,776
We also intend
to charge your husband

615
00:24:34,777 --> 00:24:36,822
with manslaughter,

616
00:24:36,823 --> 00:24:41,000
which means we will need
your cooperation.

617
00:24:41,001 --> 00:24:43,481
- What-what do you mean?

618
00:24:43,482 --> 00:24:46,788
- We want you to tell the jury
what actually happened-

619
00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:48,790
that Derek prevented you
from getting

620
00:24:48,791 --> 00:24:50,705
the psychiatric help
that you needed.

621
00:24:50,706 --> 00:24:53,447
?

622
00:24:53,448 --> 00:24:57,495
- So you want
to send Derek to prison?

623
00:24:57,496 --> 00:24:59,845
- He needs to be held
accountable.

624
00:24:59,846 --> 00:25:02,369
- That means-no.

625
00:25:02,370 --> 00:25:06,416
I have two little girls
at home, and they need him.

626
00:25:06,417 --> 00:25:08,201
- If you continue
to get better,

627
00:25:08,202 --> 00:25:09,855
you'll be able
to go home pretty soon.

628
00:25:09,856 --> 00:25:12,031
- Look, Ms. Chapman,
the fact is,

629
00:25:12,032 --> 00:25:15,208
Derek committed a crime.

630
00:25:15,209 --> 00:25:18,037
His actions helped cause
your daughter's death.

631
00:25:18,038 --> 00:25:22,955
?

632
00:25:22,956 --> 00:25:24,565
- So what do you want me to do?

633
00:25:24,566 --> 00:25:27,568
?

634
00:25:27,569 --> 00:25:31,920
The voices started a few weeks
after Sophie was born.

635
00:25:31,921 --> 00:25:35,707
- Can you be more specific?

636
00:25:35,708 --> 00:25:39,232
- It's hard to explain, but...

637
00:25:39,233 --> 00:25:42,714
it's like someone else
was in the room.

638
00:25:42,715 --> 00:25:47,675
And I couldn't see him,
but he would talk to me,

639
00:25:47,676 --> 00:25:51,940
and I knew that he loved me.

640
00:25:51,941 --> 00:25:56,858
I'm not religious, but it was
like I was talking to God.

641
00:25:56,859 --> 00:26:01,210
And he was telling me,
warning me,

642
00:26:01,211 --> 00:26:05,345
that demons were trying
to kill my baby.

643
00:26:05,346 --> 00:26:08,914
- Was your husband aware
you were hearing these voices?

644
00:26:08,915 --> 00:26:10,306
- Yes.

645
00:26:10,307 --> 00:26:11,873
- And what was his reaction?

646
00:26:11,874 --> 00:26:15,398
- He said
that they would go away.

647
00:26:15,399 --> 00:26:17,009
- Did you ask for help?
- Yes.

648
00:26:17,010 --> 00:26:19,620
- And was he supportive?

649
00:26:19,621 --> 00:26:20,969
- Not really.

650
00:26:20,970 --> 00:26:25,104
Derek doesn't believe
in therapy or medication.

651
00:26:25,105 --> 00:26:26,758
- Did you ever see
a psychiatrist?

652
00:26:26,759 --> 00:26:28,281
- Once.

653
00:26:28,282 --> 00:26:31,632
Derek and I talked to someone
named Dr. Burns.

654
00:26:31,633 --> 00:26:33,068
- What did she recommend?

655
00:26:33,069 --> 00:26:35,723
- She said that I should be
admitted to her clinic

656
00:26:35,724 --> 00:26:39,988
and start taking
an antipsychotic immediately-

657
00:26:39,989 --> 00:26:41,076
Zyprexa.

658
00:26:41,077 --> 00:26:43,775
- Did you follow her advice?

659
00:26:43,776 --> 00:26:44,776
- No.

660
00:26:44,777 --> 00:26:45,951
- Why not?

661
00:26:45,952 --> 00:26:48,257
- Like I said,

662
00:26:48,258 --> 00:26:52,218
Derek doesn't believe
in medication or therapy.

663
00:26:52,219 --> 00:26:54,263
- Is there a reason for this?

664
00:26:54,264 --> 00:26:56,701
- I think it has to do
with his mother.

665
00:26:56,702 --> 00:27:01,314
She committed suicide
when he was 16,

666
00:27:01,315 --> 00:27:04,491
and he blamed it on
the medication she was taking.

667
00:27:04,492 --> 00:27:06,232
- Why did you listen
to your husband?

668
00:27:06,233 --> 00:27:08,016
Why didn't you just
take the pills anyway?

669
00:27:08,017 --> 00:27:11,629
- Because I-I was confused.

670
00:27:11,630 --> 00:27:14,067
I wasn't well. I was ill.

671
00:27:16,373 --> 00:27:18,810
And I didn't want him
to divorce me.

672
00:27:18,811 --> 00:27:20,333
- Divorce you?

673
00:27:20,334 --> 00:27:23,423
Why'd you think
that was even a possibility?

674
00:27:23,424 --> 00:27:28,080
- Because he said it was,
if I took the antipsychotic

675
00:27:28,081 --> 00:27:30,169
or went to the clinic.

676
00:27:30,170 --> 00:27:32,998
[indistinct whispering]

677
00:27:32,999 --> 00:27:36,479
- Can you please tell us
the circumstances

678
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,221
surrounding your daughter
Emily's death?

679
00:27:39,222 --> 00:27:42,529
?

680
00:27:42,530 --> 00:27:46,794
- The morning that Emily died,

681
00:27:46,795 --> 00:27:52,539
the voice was particularly loud
and persuasive.

682
00:27:52,540 --> 00:27:55,455
It was the most real thing
in my mind.

683
00:27:55,456 --> 00:27:57,805
And...

684
00:27:57,806 --> 00:28:02,288
it told me that demons were
going to kill my baby, Sophie,

685
00:28:02,289 --> 00:28:07,336
and that my daughter Emily

686
00:28:07,337 --> 00:28:11,950
was one of the demons.

687
00:28:11,951 --> 00:28:13,386
I found that hard to believe,

688
00:28:13,387 --> 00:28:16,258
but the voice said
that's how demons present,

689
00:28:16,259 --> 00:28:19,218
as pretty, kind, caring.

690
00:28:19,219 --> 00:28:23,265
If they're young and innocent

691
00:28:23,266 --> 00:28:27,443
and you love them,
that's how they succeed.

692
00:28:27,444 --> 00:28:30,577
I know it's hard to comprehend,
but I literally thought

693
00:28:30,578 --> 00:28:32,840
that my beautiful daughter
Emily was a monster

694
00:28:32,841 --> 00:28:36,235
and that she was going
to kill her little sister.

695
00:28:36,236 --> 00:28:39,412
[crying]
That's why I-

696
00:28:39,413 --> 00:28:40,761
- Thank you, Ms. Chapman.

697
00:28:40,762 --> 00:28:42,589
I have nothing further.

698
00:28:42,590 --> 00:28:47,420
?

699
00:28:47,421 --> 00:28:51,337
- Ms. Chapman,
you've accepted a plea

700
00:28:51,338 --> 00:28:53,513
with the district attorney's
office acknowledging

701
00:28:53,514 --> 00:28:56,821
that you are legally insane, correct?

702
00:28:56,822 --> 00:28:58,083
- That's correct.

703
00:28:58,084 --> 00:28:59,649
- And legal insanity means

704
00:28:59,650 --> 00:29:01,347
that you can't tell
the difference

705
00:29:01,348 --> 00:29:03,610
between right and wrong.

706
00:29:03,611 --> 00:29:06,918
You can't discern truth
from hallucination.

707
00:29:06,919 --> 00:29:08,310
Correct?
- Yes.

708
00:29:08,311 --> 00:29:11,226
- So your testimony today
about your husband

709
00:29:11,227 --> 00:29:13,228
is meaningless.

710
00:29:13,229 --> 00:29:14,621
- Objection.

711
00:29:14,622 --> 00:29:16,318
- Sustained.

712
00:29:16,319 --> 00:29:17,668
Ms. Wallace?

713
00:29:20,976 --> 00:29:26,241
- Derek didn't physically
prevent you from seeking help,

714
00:29:26,242 --> 00:29:27,503
did he?

715
00:29:27,504 --> 00:29:29,027
- No.

716
00:29:29,028 --> 00:29:32,291
- He didn't lock the door
or handcuff you to a railing?

717
00:29:32,292 --> 00:29:33,814
- No, of course not.

718
00:29:33,815 --> 00:29:36,338
- So when you said
Derek didn't allow you

719
00:29:36,339 --> 00:29:38,906
to get help, that's not true,
is it?

720
00:29:38,907 --> 00:29:42,431
- I suppose, but he definitely
did not want me

721
00:29:42,432 --> 00:29:44,999
to take the antipsychotic
or go back to that clinic.

722
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,480
- He didn't want you to.

723
00:29:47,481 --> 00:29:51,919
That's a lot different
than preventing you, isn't it?

724
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:57,490
What I'm getting at
is that you and only you

725
00:29:57,491 --> 00:30:00,493
chose not to go
to the motherhood clinic

726
00:30:00,494 --> 00:30:02,887
or call
for another prescription.

727
00:30:02,888 --> 00:30:04,323
- That is correct.

728
00:30:04,324 --> 00:30:06,804
But I was not well.

729
00:30:06,805 --> 00:30:08,631
- But now you are?

730
00:30:08,632 --> 00:30:09,807
- Yes.

731
00:30:09,808 --> 00:30:11,373
I'm taking the medication
that I needed,

732
00:30:11,374 --> 00:30:14,724
and I feel
a lot more like myself.

733
00:30:14,725 --> 00:30:16,726
- That's great.

734
00:30:16,727 --> 00:30:19,512
But it doesn't excuse
what you did

735
00:30:19,513 --> 00:30:22,820
or justify the blame you are
trying to pawn off on Derek.

736
00:30:22,821 --> 00:30:24,212
- I'm just telling you
what happened.

737
00:30:24,213 --> 00:30:25,866
- What happened?

738
00:30:25,867 --> 00:30:29,217
And by that, you mean
killing your daughter Emily?

739
00:30:29,218 --> 00:30:30,741
- Yes.

740
00:30:32,918 --> 00:30:35,354
- This is you

741
00:30:35,355 --> 00:30:39,010
in this video
obtained by police?

742
00:30:39,011 --> 00:30:40,881
[dramatic music]

743
00:30:40,882 --> 00:30:42,143
- Yes, that's me.

744
00:30:42,144 --> 00:30:45,016
?

745
00:30:45,017 --> 00:30:47,888
- And just so we're clear,

746
00:30:47,889 --> 00:30:50,499
you and only you

747
00:30:50,500 --> 00:30:53,285
pushed her off the High Line,

748
00:30:53,286 --> 00:30:55,940
30 feet to her death?

749
00:30:55,941 --> 00:30:59,030
?

750
00:30:59,031 --> 00:31:00,335
- Yes.

751
00:31:00,336 --> 00:31:03,773
- No further questions.

752
00:31:03,774 --> 00:31:04,905
- People rest.

753
00:31:04,906 --> 00:31:08,474
?

754
00:31:08,475 --> 00:31:11,259
- Would you describe yourself
as being perceptive?

755
00:31:11,260 --> 00:31:14,088
Someone capable
of sensing problems,

756
00:31:14,089 --> 00:31:15,916
danger, imminent violence?

757
00:31:15,917 --> 00:31:17,483
- Yes, definitely.

758
00:31:17,484 --> 00:31:19,006
- And why is that?

759
00:31:19,007 --> 00:31:20,703
- It's just how I'm wired.

760
00:31:20,704 --> 00:31:23,184
And prior to my career
in finance,

761
00:31:23,185 --> 00:31:24,751
I served in the navy.

762
00:31:24,752 --> 00:31:25,926
- What division?

763
00:31:25,927 --> 00:31:27,710
- Navy SEALS,
Special Operations.

764
00:31:27,711 --> 00:31:30,235
So I've been trained
to sense danger and react

765
00:31:30,236 --> 00:31:31,758
to potential threats.

766
00:31:31,759 --> 00:31:35,240
- Did you perceive
that your wife was suffering

767
00:31:35,241 --> 00:31:37,807
from severe mental illness?

768
00:31:37,808 --> 00:31:39,374
- No.

769
00:31:39,375 --> 00:31:40,985
- Did you think
she posed a danger

770
00:31:40,986 --> 00:31:43,117
to herself or your family?

771
00:31:43,118 --> 00:31:44,249
- Of course not.

772
00:31:44,250 --> 00:31:45,772
If I thought for one second

773
00:31:45,773 --> 00:31:47,208
any of my children
were in danger,

774
00:31:47,209 --> 00:31:48,731
I would have done
something about it.

775
00:31:48,732 --> 00:31:51,952
- Mr. Chapman, why do you think

776
00:31:51,953 --> 00:31:55,695
Melinda killed
your daughter Emily?

777
00:31:55,696 --> 00:31:57,349
- When Sophie was born,

778
00:31:57,350 --> 00:31:59,394
Mel began to resent
the other kids.

779
00:31:59,395 --> 00:32:01,222
She was feeling overwhelmed,

780
00:32:01,223 --> 00:32:03,485
said nothing was
about her anymore,

781
00:32:03,486 --> 00:32:07,446
that no one was
paying attention to her.

782
00:32:07,447 --> 00:32:11,145
And Emily and Mel
were always fighting.

783
00:32:11,146 --> 00:32:14,235
She kept saying
that life would be much easier

784
00:32:14,236 --> 00:32:15,845
without Emily here.

785
00:32:15,846 --> 00:32:18,979
I think she killed Emily
because she was tired

786
00:32:18,980 --> 00:32:21,547
of all the stress,
all the fighting,

787
00:32:21,548 --> 00:32:24,463
and she wanted to put
the focus back on herself.

788
00:32:24,464 --> 00:32:26,552
- And not because
she was suffering

789
00:32:26,553 --> 00:32:28,380
from postpartum psychosis?

790
00:32:28,381 --> 00:32:31,209
- No, she was just using
that psychobabble

791
00:32:31,210 --> 00:32:36,301
to justify the fact that she is
a selfish and evil human being.

792
00:32:36,302 --> 00:32:41,350
?

793
00:32:44,484 --> 00:32:46,572
- That bastard has no shame.

794
00:32:46,573 --> 00:32:49,096
- The jurors aren't stupid.
They know he's lying.

795
00:32:49,097 --> 00:32:50,402
- Maybe.

796
00:32:50,403 --> 00:32:52,882
Well, it turned
into a "he said, she said."

797
00:32:52,883 --> 00:32:55,320
And problem is
that she has admitted

798
00:32:55,321 --> 00:32:57,452
under oath to being
legally insane

799
00:32:57,453 --> 00:32:58,932
and killing her daughter.

800
00:32:58,933 --> 00:33:02,544
- If we cross him,
he'll just keep lying.

801
00:33:02,545 --> 00:33:05,460
- Well, now what?

802
00:33:05,461 --> 00:33:07,810
- We find someone else
to testify-

803
00:33:07,811 --> 00:33:10,944
someone who can help us prove

804
00:33:10,945 --> 00:33:13,033
that Derek witnessed
Melinda's psychosis

805
00:33:13,034 --> 00:33:14,382
up close and personal.

806
00:33:14,383 --> 00:33:17,255
Someone who can

807
00:33:17,256 --> 00:33:20,736
prove that he knew
his wife posed a threat.

808
00:33:20,737 --> 00:33:22,521
- Like his daughter?

809
00:33:22,522 --> 00:33:24,524
- Yeah.

810
00:33:26,787 --> 00:33:29,832
- Amanda,
after Sophie was born,

811
00:33:29,833 --> 00:33:32,226
did your mom's behavior change?

812
00:33:32,227 --> 00:33:37,014
- Yeah.
She started acting weird.

813
00:33:37,015 --> 00:33:38,841
- Weird how?

814
00:33:38,842 --> 00:33:41,409
Can you give us an example?

815
00:33:41,410 --> 00:33:44,412
- It's OK.

816
00:33:44,413 --> 00:33:46,545
- She was just-

817
00:33:46,546 --> 00:33:50,244
like, she'd be
packing our lunches

818
00:33:50,245 --> 00:33:53,160
and then start talking
to someone who wasn't there.

819
00:33:53,161 --> 00:33:55,554
- So your dad noticed it too?

820
00:33:55,555 --> 00:34:00,124
- Yeah, he said
that if we ignored it

821
00:34:00,125 --> 00:34:01,951
that it would go away.

822
00:34:01,952 --> 00:34:05,738
?

823
00:34:05,739 --> 00:34:07,174
- [clears throat]

824
00:34:07,175 --> 00:34:11,744
Amanda, we would like you
to say that in court.

825
00:34:11,745 --> 00:34:13,659
- Why?
- Mandy.

826
00:34:13,660 --> 00:34:15,574
Sweetheart. Sweetie.

827
00:34:15,575 --> 00:34:18,707
How about you go start
on that new puzzle we just got?

828
00:34:18,708 --> 00:34:25,585
?

829
00:34:27,413 --> 00:34:29,544
- Are you saying
you want her to testify?

830
00:34:29,545 --> 00:34:31,720
- Well, it's important
that the jury knows

831
00:34:31,721 --> 00:34:33,722
that Derek was aware

832
00:34:33,723 --> 00:34:35,942
of Melinda's struggles
with mental health.

833
00:34:35,943 --> 00:34:37,378
- Emily would still be here

834
00:34:37,379 --> 00:34:40,555
if he had just taken it
more seriously.

835
00:34:40,556 --> 00:34:44,124
- Amanda can make sure
he is held accountable.

836
00:34:44,125 --> 00:34:48,259
- But Amanda, she's ten.

837
00:34:48,260 --> 00:34:53,002
She cries so much at night
that she can't sleep.

838
00:34:53,003 --> 00:34:54,439
She's started
saying things like

839
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,791
she shouldn't be here anymore
if Emily isn't.

840
00:34:58,792 --> 00:35:01,576
Blames herself for this.

841
00:35:01,577 --> 00:35:03,404
So I'm worried.

842
00:35:03,405 --> 00:35:09,193
I'm worried about her
getting up there in court,

843
00:35:09,194 --> 00:35:11,456
laying blame on her father.

844
00:35:11,457 --> 00:35:16,939
?

845
00:35:16,940 --> 00:35:18,463
[door clicks]

846
00:35:18,464 --> 00:35:21,814
?

847
00:35:21,815 --> 00:35:23,946
- We have an offer-

848
00:35:23,947 --> 00:35:25,948
one that will
spare your daughter

849
00:35:25,949 --> 00:35:27,602
from having to testify.

850
00:35:27,603 --> 00:35:30,736
- OK, let's hear it.

851
00:35:30,737 --> 00:35:33,478
- Mr. Chapman pleads guilty
to man two.

852
00:35:33,479 --> 00:35:37,003
We will recommend a sentence
of three to five years.

853
00:35:37,004 --> 00:35:39,614
- Why on Earth
would he accept that?

854
00:35:39,615 --> 00:35:43,183
- Like I just said,
if he pleads guilty,

855
00:35:43,184 --> 00:35:44,837
we won't have
to call his daughter

856
00:35:44,838 --> 00:35:46,317
as an impeachment witness.

857
00:35:46,318 --> 00:35:48,145
We understand that Amanda
is in a fragile-

858
00:35:48,146 --> 00:35:49,320
- [bangs on table]

859
00:35:49,321 --> 00:35:51,104
You're leveraging
my ten-year-old daughter

860
00:35:51,105 --> 00:35:52,323
for a guilty plea?

861
00:35:52,324 --> 00:35:53,628
- Control your client.
- Don't look at her.

862
00:35:53,629 --> 00:35:55,152
Talk to me. I'm right here.
- Derek. Derek.

863
00:35:55,153 --> 00:35:56,892
Derek, please sit down.

864
00:35:56,893 --> 00:35:58,547
You need to sit down.

865
00:36:06,729 --> 00:36:07,779
- Yes or no?

866
00:36:11,343 --> 00:36:14,736
- Look, the only thing
that matters to me right now

867
00:36:14,737 --> 00:36:17,261
is that I make it home
to look after my two daughters.

868
00:36:17,262 --> 00:36:19,524
I'm not pleading a damn thing.

869
00:36:19,525 --> 00:36:21,178
And there's not a jury
in this city

870
00:36:21,179 --> 00:36:23,092
that is going to convict me,

871
00:36:23,093 --> 00:36:24,790
with or without
Amanda's testimony.

872
00:36:24,791 --> 00:36:26,008
- We'll see about that.

873
00:36:26,009 --> 00:36:28,054
- Yeah, we will.

874
00:36:28,055 --> 00:36:29,795
- Really, that pin?

875
00:36:29,796 --> 00:36:30,970
Navy SEALs?

876
00:36:30,971 --> 00:36:32,537
Is that a joke?

877
00:36:32,538 --> 00:36:34,147
- What the hell do you know
about the navy?

878
00:36:34,148 --> 00:36:35,192
- No, you're a coward.
- Excuse me.

879
00:36:35,193 --> 00:36:36,454
I'm going to file a complaint.

880
00:36:36,455 --> 00:36:37,716
- Oh, file
whatever the hell you want.

881
00:36:37,717 --> 00:36:39,892
Your client is a disgrace.
- Sam, enough.

882
00:36:39,893 --> 00:36:41,328
- I earned this pin, thank you.

883
00:36:41,329 --> 00:36:43,765
- OK. That's all right.

884
00:36:43,766 --> 00:36:45,506
[door slams]

885
00:36:45,507 --> 00:36:47,334
- He's either
a cold-blooded bastard,

886
00:36:47,335 --> 00:36:49,118
or he's calling your bluff.

887
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:51,338
- Or both.

888
00:36:51,339 --> 00:36:53,601
- Will the daughter's testimony
put us over the top?

889
00:36:53,602 --> 00:36:56,343
- Well, she can discredit
Derek's testimony.

890
00:36:56,344 --> 00:36:58,911
She can also help us prove
that he knew

891
00:36:58,912 --> 00:37:01,522
his wife was severely ill.

892
00:37:01,523 --> 00:37:03,568
- But?

893
00:37:03,569 --> 00:37:06,440
Sounds like you're ambivalent
about calling her.

894
00:37:06,441 --> 00:37:08,225
- Her grandmother alluded
to the girl

895
00:37:08,226 --> 00:37:11,402
having suicidal thoughts.

896
00:37:11,403 --> 00:37:15,057
- And what happens
if you don't call her?

897
00:37:15,058 --> 00:37:16,799
- We probably lose.

898
00:37:18,888 --> 00:37:20,846
- So sweeten the plea?

899
00:37:20,847 --> 00:37:22,064
- If he knows we're worried,

900
00:37:22,065 --> 00:37:23,544
it'll just make him
more confident.

901
00:37:23,545 --> 00:37:25,242
- You really think this
Navy SEAL is going to let you

902
00:37:25,243 --> 00:37:26,765
put his daughter on the stand?

903
00:37:26,766 --> 00:37:28,333
- It looks that way.

904
00:37:28,334 --> 00:37:32,118
Well, then again,
this guy doesn't actually

905
00:37:32,119 --> 00:37:33,728
believe
in psychological trauma,

906
00:37:33,729 --> 00:37:35,904
so this is probably
pretty easy for him.

907
00:37:35,905 --> 00:37:38,385
I mean, we're talking about
a guy who literally thinks

908
00:37:38,386 --> 00:37:41,519
psychoactive drugs are evil.

909
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,825
[sighs]

910
00:37:43,826 --> 00:37:46,654
- Maybe that's your angle.

911
00:37:46,655 --> 00:37:48,440
- What do you mean?

912
00:37:55,098 --> 00:37:56,883
- People call Amanda Chapman.

913
00:38:12,377 --> 00:38:14,943
Are you really
going to do this?

914
00:38:14,944 --> 00:38:16,075
Poor kid's going to spend

915
00:38:16,076 --> 00:38:17,816
the rest of her life
in therapy,

916
00:38:17,817 --> 00:38:19,034
talking to shrinks,

917
00:38:19,035 --> 00:38:21,265
experimenting
with different medication.

918
00:38:24,171 --> 00:38:26,173
You already lost one daughter.

919
00:38:31,657 --> 00:38:34,267
- Mr. Price?

920
00:38:34,268 --> 00:38:36,356
- Yeah.

921
00:38:36,357 --> 00:38:39,359
[somber music]

922
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:46,498
?

923
00:39:00,207 --> 00:39:02,339
Please state your name.

924
00:39:02,340 --> 00:39:05,342
- My name is Amanda Chapman.

925
00:39:05,343 --> 00:39:08,693
- Are you related
to the defendant?

926
00:39:08,694 --> 00:39:12,392
To the man sitting
at that table?

927
00:39:12,393 --> 00:39:16,309
- Yes. He's my daddy.

928
00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:23,622
?

929
00:39:24,231 --> 00:39:28,408
- Amanda,
in the weeks and months

930
00:39:28,409 --> 00:39:30,715
leading up to-

931
00:39:30,716 --> 00:39:37,679
?

932
00:39:44,620 --> 00:39:50,691
Your Honor, we actually have
no questions for this witness,

933
00:39:50,692 --> 00:39:54,086
and we ask
that she be dismissed.

934
00:39:54,087 --> 00:39:57,742
?

935
00:39:57,743 --> 00:40:00,309
- OK, Amanda,
you may be excused.

936
00:40:00,310 --> 00:40:07,055
?

937
00:40:07,056 --> 00:40:08,448
- You can go home now.

938
00:40:08,449 --> 00:40:15,587
?

939
00:40:24,247 --> 00:40:25,770
I couldn't.

940
00:40:25,771 --> 00:40:32,385
?

941
00:40:32,386 --> 00:40:34,169
- Ladies and gentlemen
of the jury,

942
00:40:34,170 --> 00:40:35,257
have you reached a verdict?

943
00:40:35,258 --> 00:40:36,911
- We have, Your Honor.

944
00:40:36,912 --> 00:40:39,740
- On the charge of manslaughter
in the second degree,

945
00:40:39,741 --> 00:40:40,872
how do you find?

946
00:40:40,873 --> 00:40:44,528
- We find the defendant,
Derek Chapman,

947
00:40:44,529 --> 00:40:45,877
not guilty.
[crowd muttering]

948
00:40:45,878 --> 00:40:47,313
- Oh, thank you, God.
[bangs on table]

949
00:40:47,314 --> 00:40:49,707
- Order, please.

950
00:40:49,708 --> 00:40:52,274
Jury, thank you
for your service.

951
00:40:52,275 --> 00:40:54,494
The defendant is free to go.

952
00:40:54,495 --> 00:40:56,496
[gavel bangs]

953
00:40:56,497 --> 00:40:59,499
[dramatic music]

954
00:40:59,500 --> 00:41:06,638
?

955
00:41:08,509 --> 00:41:10,075
- There she is.

956
00:41:10,076 --> 00:41:11,337
- Daddy!

957
00:41:11,338 --> 00:41:13,034
- Hey, hey.

958
00:41:13,035 --> 00:41:15,123
?

959
00:41:15,124 --> 00:41:18,170
- Son of a bitch got off easy.

960
00:41:18,171 --> 00:41:20,172
- No. He knows what he did.

961
00:41:20,173 --> 00:41:23,480
He knows that he is responsible
for his daughter's death.

962
00:41:23,481 --> 00:41:26,134
?

963
00:41:26,135 --> 00:41:28,441
It's a life sentence.

964
00:41:28,442 --> 00:41:35,580
?

965
00:41:41,020 --> 00:41:43,935
[dramatic music]

966
00:41:43,936 --> 00:41:50,899
?

967
00:42:10,223 --> 00:42:13,400
[wolf howls]

968
00:42:13,450 --> 00:42:18,000
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